The great flood from the bible?

There is a lot of very powerful evidence that the biblical flood did in fact occur





1) The arcic tundra. The arctic tundra is a ring of material that occurs in the northern lattitudes...alaska, siberia, northern europe, northern china, and circles the globe. In some places it is more than 600 feet thick. it is made up of approx 50% silt, clay, and other mineral deposits...the other 50% is the remains of trees, plants, animals, leaves, and other organic material.Radiocarbon testing sets the organic remains at about 19000 years old. The only conclusion to be reached is that a massive flood washed entire ecosystems from the lower lattitudes to the arctic, sweeping whole forests before it...the animal remains found in the tundra include species such as the sabre tooth tiger, extinct giant sloths, bison,


mammoths...also WHALES, SHARK, fish of every description.These animals are found whole, sheared in half, pulverized, in every condition imaginable...





2)midwest silt deposits


throughout the midwest, there is a layer of silt , called the loess, which is found at a depth of about 100 meters, in which have been found entire whale skeletons, sea turtle skeletons, shark skeletons, and other sea life which had to have been carried inland by either a gigantic tsunami or flood. These anomalies are found up to 600 miles from any seashore, and again were dated to be about 19000 years old.





3)Bone breccia caves


Throughout the world are found the so called bone caves, in which are found breccia deposits which contain bones of every description...sea life, land life, birds, all tightly packed into these caves, smashed to pieces, as though these animals gathered into these caves to escape a rising flood, and were finally pulverized by a massive wave,and entombed in silt.





4)the great salt lake


Utah's salt lake, supposedly a land-locked ocean left to evaporate, may well be the remnants of this flood, as the salt deposits surrounding the lake are not deep or extensive enough to be explained by the theory..





SOME MODERN CATSTROPHISTS theorize that the great flood was caused by the near-miss of a rogue planetoid, whos gravitational disruption caused the oceans to bulge towards the body, and when the planetoid passed by, collapse, flooding the northern hemisphere.

The great flood from the bible?
You know I read alot of these Flood/Anti-Flood theories and so far this is up there as a very good proving point. But I did want to say to those anti-flood theorist is that you forget some things when you say the flood was never a global one only local. You forget that flooding is a fact of nature even til this day. So, there may have been records of floods, and even great floods, but none would match the power and might God displayed by creating a Global Flood.





Gen 9:15And I will remember my covenant, which is between me and you and every living creature of all flesh; and the waters shall no more become a flood to destroy all flesh.


~verse 15 states that God will no more destroy all flesh with a flood. It doesnt say that floods itself would never happen again or that it never happened until that point. No it basically says that God will not destroy the all living creatures on earth by Flood at once anymore. How can not believe when even a simple hurricane like Katrina can come along and destroy a whole city? Remember Weather is alot calmer now then it was but only until recently has the weather picked up again...hmm I wonder why that is???? (Christians know this answer
Reply:I do believe I detect the odour of male bovine by-product





1) Arctic Tundra is approx 20,000 years olod because that was when the last Ice Age ended and the Tundra began to grow. Tundra doesn't grow under hundreds of feet of solid ice.





2) The Mid West silt deposits and other similar deposits over large areas of the Northern Hemisphere were deposited by glacial meltwater - again at the end of the last Ice Age.





These and the other factors you mention are indeed the product of SOME degree of flooding - sea levels would have been raised by approx 600 feet and bones of marine animals would indeed have been washed "inland" under such circumstances.





What these observations does not prove is a global flood as described in the bible:-


1) There is not enough water on the entire planet to submerge all the land


2) If all the land was submerged then all the plant life would have died. It would take much longer than 20,000 years for the plants to re-evolve into forests, jungles, etc. Even the Arctic Tundra took 20,000 years to reclaim the areas devastated by the retreating glaciers


3) If all the world was flooded then either all the freshwater fish or all the saltwater fish would have perished as most fish can only live in one type of water or the other


4) There is no way on Earth that even today we could build a ship large enough to hold all the living species alive today, even if it was only one breeding pair of each. Such a ship would have required refrigeration and heating plants, enough food for all the animals (lions eat a zebra a week - so two weeks in you'd run out of zebras, elephants eat a ton of straw a day, etc etc)


5) Genetic studies show that almost every animal you can name is descended from more than one breeding pair
Reply:Sure there is...and pigs fly.
Reply:If you can post reliable links to this data you might have a chance but no one will take what you say without proper evidence.
Reply:So, how does that explain the fauna distribution of Australia and New Zealand?





The distribution of animals throughout the world proves that a world wide flood never occurred.
Reply:i believe the flood accrued


but i am no christian, i am a proud Muslim
Reply:Sweetheart....this is theory and hypothesis...no concrete evidence....





BTW, I am a Christian.....
Reply:i appreciate your research....





go by the bible when you speak of the flood though...





YBIC
Reply:I agree with you, but prepare to be slandered and ridiculed for your belief. Many will answer only to demean you and belittle you, or simply ignore the question all together. Lastly, they may just report you.
Reply:Do you know about the Epic of Gilgamesh? It was written way prior to the bible and that book talks about a universal flood, the bible plagiarized that story from it.
Reply:ok yes the bible is right...however your number 4 reason is right in that the great salt lake has salt however if you take any body of wanter that has no outlet but is receiving minerals then the water becomes salty and that is why the great salt lake is salty not because of the flood...also dont try to convince people with facts teach them with love
Reply:"The only conclusion to be reached" is ridiculous.
Reply:Wait...I thought that according to the bible, the earth is only 6000 years old? Your 19000 year carbon dating hypothesis kind of disproves that anyway, doesn't it?
Reply:You had better be a troll.





Because, if you are not, you are doing the cause of Christianity harm by showing your propensity to naive, unquestioning belief.





And if that's what makes a good believer, than many people will be, rightly, put off.





"The only conclusion to be reached ..." my foot!
Reply:Actually, there is one main point you are missing. The ice age. The ice age was a climate change that no sensible person can deny happening, and could only have been caused by a massive rise in the surface area of the water. The evidence of a massive amount of water is right under the ice age disaster. Therefore, most animal life should have died right before the ice age, but they didn't. The only way to explain that is the ark, whether Noah be told by God, or if Noah was the Al Gore of the past.
Reply:Yes that could explain the ice age.
Reply:I believe the bible says the great flood ocurred less than 6000 years ago and you mention 19,000 years, so back to the drawing board. By the way redo your facts and put down some references.
Reply:Read the online book about the Hydroplate Theory of the flood by Dr Walt Brown...lots of good scientific evidence and info there as well...


http://www.creationscience.com/onlineboo...





The planetoid or comet theory has some problems with it ...hydroplate theory seems to be the best explanation that I've found. And radiometric dating methods are flawed by unverifiable and unobservable assumptions of the decay rates being constant.


Halos.com has info on the almost instant formation of earth's oldest rocks.
Reply:The Noah's flood story is not a literal one,but the "point of the story" is really what it's about,starting over,beginning a new


and redemption
Reply:Several things wrong with your "facts". Beside the fact that there are signs of unbroken life, including vegetation, for the last several million years, the polar ice capes are dated to at least 160,000 year ago (they should have melted during the flood) and there are no other matching signs of "globally covering silt" in the geological column matching the "tundra ring" you mentioned. In fact, there is no global layer of silt in the geological column at all. Then there is the small detail that there is not enough water to cover the earth to the depth needed (we only have 1/5 of what is needed) and there is not enough hydrogen to make the remaining water.





Remember that there was a ice age around 20,000 years ago that lasted until around 10,000 years ago, this would explain the tundra and Midwest deposits. Many lakes and various terrain features we see today were carved during that time.





In order for you "bone breccia caves" to have any relevance to a global flood you would need to show that they all are dated to the same time, otherwise they are just unrelated bones.





Not sure on the Salt Lake, but again, you would have to make a convincing case that it was formed at the same time as the nonexistent global silt layer and the bone caves.





In other words you have not built any sort of case at all, other than to string together some unrelated pieces of evidence ans forced them into fiting your hypothesis. Science works the opposite way, you examine the facts and then come to a conclusion, as more evidence is found then you re-evaluate.





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By the way, have you ever thought about rainbows? The only way that they could not have appeared before is if either there was no moisture at all in the air - ever, or that the properties of light or water changed. Not to mention that we know that the oldest religion (35000 years ago), worshiped a rain god.





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Consider this: in order to cover Mt Ararat or Mt Everest, the water depth on all vegetation and seeds would be crushed by the water pressure - this would be like dropping them in the deepest trench in the ocean.



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